Q: It is just a show. Why asking for an apology?
A: Watching this show will make some people think that it is OK to consider 1)killing people; 2)killing a whole group of people; 3)killing a whole country of people; 4)killing someone to get rid of a problem; 5)killing your creditor; 6)borrowing money without keeping it in mind that you will have to return the money one day. I think ABC and Jimmy Kimmel not only have to apologize to China and the Chinese people, but also have to apologize to the American people, especially the American kids.
Q: Why Chinese Americans and China are asking for an apology?
A: Saying “killing everyone in China” is an interesting idea and asking if the Chinese should be allowed to live is to say the United States can do anything to China because China is not equal to the United States and has to be at the United States’ mercy. Is that not showing disrespect for China and the Chinese people? If you fail to see that, it means that you think China does not deserve any respect and so should just accept the insult.
Q: Do Jimmy Kimmel and ABC not have the right to free speech?
A: Genocide advocacy is not protected by the laws.
Q: Jimmy Kimmel has said “I’m a comedian, I was trying to make people laugh.”
A: That is where the problem is. Some Americans enjoy talking about killing Chinese (probably simply because they think they can if they want to). And Jimmy Kimmel just wanted to make money out of that. That is how the entertainment world makes money a lot of time. But not everything you can make money doing is right.
Q: Why is the show disgusting?
A: If you don’t find it disgusting, it could be because you would have said the same thing, done the same thing yourself. But the fact that you would have said the same thing, done the same thing does not mean that it was right. I guess people who fail to see any problem with joking about killing certain people were raised with so much prejudice against those people that they are not able to see that there is a problem with joking about killing them.
Q: We are just joking, why being so offended?
A: You are just joking, not really doing anything, because you don’t want to break the laws and get punished for it. But plenty of people will turn words into actions and will do the dirty work for you (trying to harm Chinese living in America since they can not really go to China to kill people over there) and they will have to go to jail for you to get a good laugh out of it. Do you realize how mean you are? If you do not have the thought of killing Chinese, why talk about it? If you have the thought of killing Chinese, why only talk to others about it? You know that you can not kill, but talk to others as if anyone who wants to can give it a try. Is that not misleading? You are also suggesting that the Chinese deserve to get killed. Is that not offensive enough?
Q: It was a child who said it. Why being offended?
A: It was Jimmy Kimmel who not only failed to tell the child that it was not right to think of killing people to solve a problem, but also kind of gave him certain degree of encouragement, then allowed the show to be broadcast without that part being edited out. Jimmy Kimmel and ABC were basically using the child to express their own opinions. The child was innocent, but Jimmy Kimmel and ABC were not.
Q: People in or from a communist country like China don’t deserve an apology because they are not getting anything better from their government.
A: Don’t use ideology as a justification for genocide advocacy. You are way behind the time if you do. There are problems with every social system. There is no system a people choose that should make them subject to genocide. Those who think people should be killed for choosing one social system over others have no concept of human rights or democracy.
Q: Look at how Chinese are treated in China. Why are they asking for dignity here?
A: Do you think that if Chinese are oppressed in China, they should not get anything better here? You want to compete against the Chinese government to see who is more mean to the Chinese people? Well, at least the Chinese government is not saying that it is going to kill everyone in China.
I guess you will want to ask, so why are the Chinese coming to America and some won’t leave. Well, quite many Americans have come to China and some have not left, either. People move around for different reasons. If you just don’t like the Chinese to come to America, you can just say so. But that does not justify talking about killing everyone in China.
First of all, he is neither the only one nor the first one who fights against NSA spying. Others have been fighting against it for years. However, sometimes you just have to break the law to get the press to report about and thus start a public debate over an issue that others have been fighting over for years. How many people have been protesting NSA warrantless wiretapping in the past decade?
What about his revelation to the world of NSA’s spying on people in other countries and other governments? Would you rather see the US as a friend or foe of other people and other governments? If you prefer to be friends with other people and other governments, then don’t do to others what you do not want to be done to yourself. I think what Edward Snowden has done will change the US to her advantage, stop her from going over the cliff. Would you rather losing friends after being found not being really friendly to your friends? Actions speak louder than words. Don’t expect to betray your friends and not being found out later.
Q: Why don’t they just go find a job?
A: If you are always busy looking for work and working, you won’t be able to devote your time and energy to the struggle. You will always be struggling to get by. You will never have a better future. Young people are right to devote their time and energy to the struggle so that they can have a better future.
Q: Why don’t they go to the homeless shelters?
A: If people stay in homeless shelters, not many people will know about their problems. And their problems will never be solved.
Q: Occupy Wall Street put protesters in harm’s way because protesters are being beaten up by police at Occupy Wall Street protests. Also, protesters can be arrested and records of multiple arrests will hurt protesters in the future. Why should people participate in Occupy Wall Street protests and get themselves hurt and risk their future also?
A: It is up to the police, not Occupy Wall Street, whether protesters get beaten up and arrested or not. What we have to do is to try to stop the police from beating and arresting people for protesting, not to stop protesting. The government should try to listen to protesters’ concerns rather than trying to silence them. If a government encourages people to try to beat each other out to make it and makes those who can not make it disappear, it is practicing social Darwinism, not democracy.
Q: Is Occupy Wall Street encouraging people to go homeless?
A: Occupy Wall Street has been trying their best to help homeless people find a place. You can go to nycga.net to find housing information (http://housing.nycga.net/current-housing/) any time. Food and housing are the two things that OWS have devoted more of their time and energy to, so much so that they were suspected of turning into a charity at one point.
Q: Have Occupy Wall Street protesters been brainwashed, manipulated, blackmailed, or are they too young to make their own judgement?
A: Protesters are not underage children who will do anything you ask them to do. They are not brainwashed, manipulated, or blackmailed, either. They choose to participate in the protests. Nobody at Occupy Wall Street that I know of has been manipulated or blackmailed into participating. It is totally up to every individual what they participate in and when. The reason why protesters are mostly young people is that older people have families and so can not risk too much. Younger people often do not have to worry about their families and so can risk more.
Q: Is Occupy Wall Street using minority to further majority’s agenda?
A: Most protesters at Occupy Wall Street are not minority. And Occupy Wall Street’s agenda is not for majority and against minority. Just because a majority is fighting for it does not mean that it is against minority.
Q: Why are the masses not joining Occupy Wall Street?
A: Some don’t understand the movement. Some have been misinformed. Some misunderstand the movement and think that it is against their interests. Some don’t want to or can not afford to risk their interests for the greater good.
This is the most important part of the speech I gave at the Immigrants Occupy rally at Foley Square on December 18th, the International Migrant Day.
First, let’s look at the cost of immigration detention and deportation.
Immigration detention and deportation is a multi-billion dollars business. For the Fiscal Year beginning October 1, 2011 (Fiscal Year 2012), the House of Representatives has approved a budget of $2.75 billion for Detention and Removal. The Obama Administration‘s most recent request to Congress for immigration detention alone amounts to $5.5 million per day. The current cost to detain an immigrant is approximately $166 per day.
Second, let’s look at what all this expenditure is for.
ICE says that its policy is to prioritize apprehension and detention of individuals convicted of serious criminal offenses. But 65% of immigrants who were detained and deported from 1996 to 2006 were detained after being arrested for nonviolent crimes. In 2009 and 2010, over half of all immigrant detainees had no criminal records (much like the recent case of Ayded Reyes). Of those with any criminal history, nearly 20% were merely for traffic offenses.
Third, let’s look at where all this money goes.
Most of ICE-run detention facilities have been privatized. As a result, the expansion of the immigrant detention system has benefited the private prison industry. In 2010, the two largest ICE detention contractors Corrections Corporations of America (CCA) and the GEO Group Inc., reported annual revenues of $1.69 billion and $1.17 billion respectively.
Fourth, let’s follow the money and connect the dots.
The huge amount of profits that the private prison industry creates from the detention and deportation of immigrants have motivated private prison corporations to try to exert their influence on legislators and lobby for laws that detain immigrants more frequently and for longer periods of time. For the five corporations with ICE detention contracts for which federal lobbying records are available, the total lobbying expenditure for 1999 through 2009 was over $20 million. Arizona‘s controversial S.B. 1070 bill was drafted in the presence of officials from CCA. Of the 36 co-sponsors of S.B. 1070, 30 received campaign contributions from private prison lobbyists or companies, including CCA.
The following paragraphs, which were left out at the rally due to time constrains, help you understand the impact of immigration detention and deportation on immigrants.
We at Families for Freedom have a distinct understanding of the issue. Our members are being detained and deported or threaten to be detained and deported for all kinds of reasons and non-reasons, from being suspected of having overstayed visas, to having committed a felony many years or even decades ago, sometimes during one’s teenage year, which one has long served time for. Many of our members have lived legally with their entire families in the US for decades, many since their childhood, and now are being ripped apart from their families and communities and sent to countries where they have no families and which they do not know much about.
Having been convicted of a crime is only an excuse for immigrants to be detained and deported. And it is an unfair one. If immigrants who have committed a crime have to face deportation after serving their time, deportation is an additional punishment for immigrants for no other reason than being immigrants. And it is a very severe punishment. (You may understand it better by listening to this This American Life radio program concerning the 1996 law.)
Immigrants are often detained without access to a lawyer and taken far away from their homes and communities so that they cannot get help from their families and communities. Those that are detained are often denied access to health care. So not only they can be deported without a chance to fight their deportation, some of them also have to deal with serious health problems in detention which have resulted in death in some cases.
This article was written for Occupy Wall Street’s media team to submit to The Guardian’s “Comment is Free” section. I have not been notified that it has been used. So I am posting it here to share. A few changes have been made for the sake of political correctness and accuracy.
Most people who come to Occupy Wall Street for economic reasons are protesting against income inequality. However, there are quite many who come to protest a host of other issues including budget cuts, worker exploitation, and crackdowns on undocumented immigrants, etc.
Budget cuts are being implemented or threatened to be implemented on all levels of government all over the country and in many countries in the developed world. Budget cuts can have profound impacts on the lives of many who need government assistance, especially at this difficult time when government assistance is needed more than ever.
Worker exploitation is happening more often because of intense competitions among businesses trying to survive a hard time and because of the lack of new job opportunities. In an economic hard time, businesses have both the motivation and the condition to exploit workers more. Economic hardship means fewer customers, which means more competitions among businesses. The lack of new job opportunities means workers have to put up with harder working conditions and spending more time at work without getting proper compensations for it.
Crackdowns on undocumented immigrants have had a devastating impact in immigrant communities and beyond. Families are torn apart. Bread-earners are taken away. Children are left in foster care (see “Study: 5,100 Kids in Foster Care After Parents Deported” and “U.S. Deports 46K Parents With Citizen Kids in Just Six Months”). Not to mention many jobs left unfilled (see “Test fails to replace immigrant laborers with U.S. citizens in Alabama”), crops left rotten in the field, loss of economic output, loss of tax revenue from businesses as well as from immigrant workers (see “RELEASE: How Georgia’s Anti-Immigration Law Could Hurt the State’s (and the Nation’s) Economy”), more financial burden for the government, and more burden for local communities.
The good news is, although you do not hear much about them, there are working groups at Occupy Wall Street, such as the Immigrant Worker Justice Working Group, that are working on these issues. Occupy Wall Street has developed into a mini society where we take care of each other and try to get all the issues that we are facing addressed.
The videos below may or may not be live. Please listen carefully to find out if they are live.
Activists do not have to live where meetings are supposed to take place. Meetings do not have to take place where activists live.
We should call on residents to provide shelters to activists and offer to pay part of their rents. We can use the money donated to OWS to help pay their rents. This way we can find more shelters for activists and so more activists will be able to join the movement.
Also, activists should be flexible and keep their personal belongings in storage, shower in the gyms, and be willing to sleep in living rooms or in sleeping bags (rather than tents) if they sleep outdoor. That way it would not bother too many people.
We are here to build a movement, not to ask for whatever we want. Do you agree? If activists can not sacrifice themselves, how do they lead a movement that ask others to refrain from being too greedy?
This flyer was distributed at the Zuccotti Park two weeks after Occupy Wall Street started. I have run out of the flyer and have not printed any more. So I am posting it here in case anyone still wants to see it. Occupy Wall Street is now a movement rather than just a demonstration or a protest. But I am listed it under “Demonstrations” just for convenience.
What do we want?
- End the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq
- End the use of torture and targeted killing
- Restore habeas corpus
- Restore civil liberties (was originlly misspelled as “liberty”)
- End the deportation of immigrants
- Legalize undocumented immigrants
- Reform the immigration system
- Justice for Troy Davis
- Justice for Meredith Kercher
Human rights have always been the driving force for economic prosperity. Only when people have more rights can they afford more. If no social progress is being made anywhere in the world, there will be no economic growth.
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Immigrant, Inc. is a book that will change the way you look at immigrants …and America.
“Immigration reform stokes enough emotion and controversy to silence civil discussion. The debate stalls at what to do about illegal immigrants. Lost in the civic dialogue, tragically, has been the impact of legal immigrants — who make up the vast majority of all immigrants – and their remarkable success in the New Economy.”